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El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« on: June 05, 2019, 10:59:30 am »
https://twitter.com/jeremymuckadg/status/1136296760765243392?s=21


AAA SUMMER WORKSHOP

Key conference moves: El Dorado to the 6A-East; Mountain Home, Parkview & Van Buren to the 6A-West; Pea Ridge to the 5A-West; Hall to the 5A-Central; Brookland to the 5A-East; Clinton to the 2-4A; Blytheville to the 3-4A

5A-South will have 7 teams.
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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2019, 01:03:48 pm »
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CLASS 6A FOOTBALL FOR 2020 AND 2021

6A-EAST: El Dorado, Jonesboro, Marion, Pine Bluff, Searcy, Sheridan, Sylvan Hills, West Memphis

6A-WEST: Benton, Greenwood, Lake Hamilton, LR Parkview, Mountain Home, Russellville, Siloam Springs, Van Buren

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2019, 02:43:40 pm »
6A East will have some battles.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2019, 04:41:40 pm »
Everyone that is employed by the AAA needs to be fired!!! This is the most stupidest thing I have read in a long time. The common sense thing would be is drop the 7A to 6A, move the 6A to 5A.

16 teams in class 6A 6 only makes the playoffs Two conferences West and Central.
32 teams in 5A. 4 conferences, west, south, central, east. 16 teams makes the playoffs.
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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2019, 04:56:31 pm »
Everyone that is employed by the AAA needs to be fired!!! This is the most stupidest thing I have read in a long time. The common sense thing would be is drop the 7A to 6A, move the 6A to 5A.

16 teams in class 6A 6 only makes the playoffs Two conferences West and Central.
32 teams in 5A. 4 conferences, west, south, central, east. 16 teams makes the playoffs.
Might want to rethink something there ...
If you moved the 6A to 5A, there would be 48 teams (16 current 6A + 32 current 5A.)

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2019, 08:56:36 pm »
Everyone that is employed by the AAA needs to be fired!!! This is the most stupidest thing I have read in a long time. The common sense thing would be is drop the 7A to 6A, move the 6A to 5A.

16 teams in class 6A 6 only makes the playoffs Two conferences West and Central.
32 teams in 5A. 4 conferences, west, south, central, east. 16 teams makes the playoffs.
Most stupidest? Uh huh

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2019, 06:51:42 am »
Everyone that is employed by the AAA needs to be fired!!! This is the most stupidest thing I have read in a long time. The common sense thing would be is drop the 7A to 6A, move the 6A to 5A.

16 teams in class 6A 6 only makes the playoffs Two conferences West and Central.
32 teams in 5A. 4 conferences, west, south, central, east. 16 teams makes the playoffs.

Should probably fire all the school administrators that voted for it too 🤷

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2019, 01:21:30 pm »
And this is the same group that tends to complain that the classifications are messed up but donít complain when it gets brought up again. Typical politics and brown nosing on here.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2019, 12:37:46 am »
The sensible thing would be to combine 7A and 6A and let the chips fall where they may.  Its beyond ridiculous to have two small conferences like they have now, just so that someone doesn't get their feelings hurt.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2019, 02:22:35 pm »
Everyone that is employed by the AAA needs to be fired!!! This is the most stupidest thing I have read in a long time. The common sense thing would be is drop the 7A to 6A, move the 6A to 5A.

16 teams in class 6A 6 only makes the playoffs Two conferences West and Central.
32 teams in 5A. 4 conferences, west, south, central, east. 16 teams makes the playoffs.

I much better Idea is:

6A - 32 teams
5A - 32 teams
4A - 32 teams

and so on.....

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2019, 04:47:18 pm »

And this is the same group that tends to complain that the classifications are messed up but donít complain when it gets brought up again. Typical politics and brown nosing on here.
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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2019, 09:22:03 am »
AAA Still hates on Moutain Home. The closest matchup is Russellville which is 2.5 hours away, and everywhere else is 3+ hours away. They need to be dropped to 5A and play teams closer to them. I honestly don't think AAA owns a map of Arkansas

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2019, 10:35:24 am »
AAA Still hates on Moutain Home. The closest matchup is Russellville which is 2.5 hours away, and everywhere else is 3+ hours away. They need to be dropped to 5A and play teams closer to them. I honestly don't think AAA owns a map of Arkansas
OK ... I'll play this one out. You want to drop Mountain Home to 5A. Fine.
First of all, Mountain Home would to drop about 100 students in order for that to happen.
So, if Mountain Home was to drop to 5A, somebody would have to move up to 6A. According to the numbers used for the 2020-22 cycle, that would be Greene County Tech.
That moves a school out of the 5A-East and ó looking at the map you claim the AAA doesn't have ó Beebe would be the school moved to the East. That would mean Vilonia goes to the Central and Mountain Home gets in the 5A-West, which still means a short trip to Harrison but also trips to Clarksville, Alma, Morrilton, Greenbrier, Pea Ridge and Farmington.
Let's face it. Mountain Home is in an isolated area from schools its size.
People used to joke about this, but it's almost true ... Mountain Home would almost be better off splitting into two Class 4A schools if you want to make issues about travel.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2019, 08:47:23 pm »
I much better Idea is:

6A - 32 teams
5A - 32 teams
4A - 32 teams

and so on.....

As it totally makes sense for an 800 enrollment school to play a 2500.  Good grief. You might be able to expand it to 20 at most.  Even then 1 will have double the enrollment as 20.

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3 2373.67
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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2019, 09:17:59 am »
Teams are only going to take so many kids on a team, only a certain number will travel. Kids get a better opportunity in smaller schools.  School numbers between 5a to 7a is almost a moot point.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2019, 09:46:09 am »
Teams are only going to take so many kids on a team, only a certain number will travel. Kids get a better opportunity in smaller schools.  School numbers between 5a to 7a is almost a moot point.

You don't think you'd find more quality athletes in 2400 as opposed to 800?

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2019, 09:57:13 am »
You don't think you'd find more quality athletes in 2400 as opposed to 800?
Iíll take my chances on the 2400......

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2019, 11:34:12 am »
Teams are only going to take so many kids on a team, only a certain number will travel. Kids get a better opportunity in smaller schools.  School numbers between 5a to 7a is almost a moot point.

That is about as ignorant thinking as you can get.  So you line up 2,400 kids and 900 kids and you donít think you are going to find more athletes???  Good grief. 

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2019, 02:06:42 pm »
That is about as ignorant thinking as you can get.  So you line up 2,400 kids and 900 kids and you donít think you are going to find more athletes???  Good grief.

PA, Shiloh, LRC all have smaller population and better teams. Bigger schools give you a bigger band at halftime.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2019, 04:06:14 pm »
PA, Shiloh, LRC all have smaller population and better teams. Bigger schools give you a bigger band at halftime.

1 out of 3 of the teams mentioned recruits well.  1 use to recruit well. 1 is never in the equation. Not sure what point you were making.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2019, 08:38:45 pm »
PA, Shiloh, LRC all have smaller population and better teams. Bigger schools give you a bigger band at halftime.

And all three have mom and dad's at home, good/great home life, support....comparing the average private school kids to the average public school kids is the age old apples to oranges....

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2019, 10:28:43 pm »
Exactly!! Size only matters to your girlfriend!!

Siloam Springs Panthers? Didn't you learn anything when the 6a/7a west happened, and you got lit up weekly?

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2019, 12:48:43 am »
Exactly!! Size only matters to your girlfriend!!

Guess he has a good argument.  SS is one of the bigger schools in 6A and they always suck.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2019, 07:12:10 am »
SS has beaten some 7a schools, Van Buren and Rogers Heritage. We had tails handed to us by Harrison. Fast is tho, teams that have enough kids on the sideline for 2 full squads still have their best players playing 2 sides of the ball. A quality team is a quality team, a good small team could easily dominate a so so larger school.

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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2019, 04:39:02 pm »
SS has beaten some 7a schools, Van Buren and Rogers Heritage. We had tails handed to us by Harrison. Fast is tho, teams that have enough kids on the sideline for 2 full squads still have their best players playing 2 sides of the ball. A quality team is a quality team, a good small team could easily dominate a so so larger school.

Rogers Heritage and Van Buren are constant rly battling for the bottom position in 7A. That isnít an accomplishment. Most years anyway.

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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2019, 08:47:30 am »
OK ... I'll play this one out. You want to drop Mountain Home to 5A. Fine.
First of all, Mountain Home would to drop about 100 students in order for that to happen.
So, if Mountain Home was to drop to 5A, somebody would have to move up to 6A. According to the numbers used for the 2020-22 cycle, that would be Greene County Tech.
That moves a school out of the 5A-East and ó looking at the map you claim the AAA doesn't have ó Beebe would be the school moved to the East. That would mean Vilonia goes to the Central and Mountain Home gets in the 5A-West, which still means a short trip to Harrison but also trips to Clarksville, Alma, Morrilton, Greenbrier, Pea Ridge and Farmington.
Let's face it. Mountain Home is in an isolated area from schools its size.
People used to joke about this, but it's almost true ... Mountain Home would almost be better off splitting into two Class 4A schools if you want to make issues about travel.

Why would you not just switch MH and Alma? The only reason I'm making this argument is due to the AAA stating that they were trying to cut down on driving time for schools

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2019, 10:03:20 am »
Why would you not just switch MH and Alma? The only reason I'm making this argument is due to the AAA stating that they were trying to cut down on driving time for schools
Look at the 2020-22 reclassification cycle numbers. There are six Class 5A schools ó Greene County Tech, Texarkana, LR Hall, Greenbrier, Hot Springs Lakeside and Maumelle ó all with bigger enrollments than Alma, which has a three-year average of about 80 students less than GCT. Enrollment is what pushes the reclassification every two years, and that's why Alma doesn't get the bump up in this scenario.
And, looking ahead, GCT may be headed for 6A for the 2022-24 cycle if recent trends continue. Instead of Mountain Home, however, the school appearing to be headed down to 5A is Little Rock Parkview, which just moved up to 6A in the 2020-22 cycle.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2019, 08:50:25 pm »
As it totally makes sense for an 800 enrollment school to play a 2500.  Good grief. You might be able to expand it to 20 at most.  Even then 1 will have double the enrollment as 20.

1 2413.00
2 2402.67
3 2373.67
4 2134.67
5 2127.67
6 2087.00
7 1973.00
8 1931.33
9 1875.00
10 1781.67
11 1692.67
12 1679.33
13 1674.33
14 1572.33
15 1393.67
16 969.67
17 1241.67
18 1207.00
19 1176.33
20 1149.33

The UofG ainít afraid of anybody!!  Right??

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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2019, 11:44:37 pm »
The UofG ainít afraid of anybody!!  Right??

I can see why Southside would
Want this.  Iím actually think they expand it to 60 so they can beat someone other than RH. 

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2019, 08:43:24 am »
So basically the best scenario for MH to move down in classification would be to split into two schools in order to better compete with other schools because the enrollment is going to screw them over every time

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2019, 11:08:56 am »
So basically the best scenario for MH to move down in classification would be to split into two schools in order to better compete with other schools because the enrollment is going to screw them over every time
Go to the AAA handbook, and the first thing you will see under football is the breakdown of classifications, which is based on a high school's three-year average enrollment in grades 9-11. That's what drives the whole thing. The conference alignments come later.
Mountain Home is the 27th largest school in the state according to the AAA numbers, which it gets from the state Department of Education. That's government, so you can't fudge on those numbers because it could hurt a school's federal funding and could lead to jail time. That means Mountain Home ranks 11th out of the 16 Class 6A schools, so that's where it belongs.
Greenwood and Searcy currently have unbeaten records, and those schools rank lower in enrollment than what Mountain Home does. So it can't be all about schools' enrollment.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2019, 04:57:15 pm »
But AAA will  screw up other sports like soccer on a whim, then come football gets different team classification. Idiots!!!!

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« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2019, 07:27:48 pm »
Talk to your superintendents ó they are the AAA.

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Re: El Dorado to 6A East, MH to the West
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2019, 08:29:55 pm »
But AAA will  screw up other sports like soccer on a whim, then come football gets different team classification. Idiots!!!!
Soccer has the same conference that basketball, baseball and softball have, and the proposal that brought up the current conferences was brought up by schools.

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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2019, 07:28:23 am »
Soccer has the same conference that basketball, baseball and softball have, and the proposal that brought up the current conferences was brought up by schools.

AAA is an easier target.....Not to mention we've been allowing Football to screw up all the other sports for a long time

 

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