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Selection of All Star Coaches
« on: December 18, 2013, 03:51:47 pm »
The AAA needs to rethink the selection process for the All Star Head Coaches.  This is supposed to be an honor presented to the best two coaches in the state each year as voted by their peers.  Due to the uneven amount of teams in each classification, the voting has become slanted towards the classifications with the most teams(2A, 3A, & 4A) and the head coaches in the larger schools have no shot at the honor.  You can't really fault the coaches because they don't have the luxury of being able to really follow what is going on in the other classifications.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 05:07:59 pm »
The whole All-Star process needs to be overhauled, from top to bottom.
It's hilarious when the players show up and some guy tells them they are the best in the state. No, they are the best of those who decided to come.
Because of colleges now wanting their signed players on campus as soon as possible, the best players can't and won't come. Case in point was the boys basketball game last year, and it became a joke.
The games need to be moved to a spot on the calendar when they mean something again.
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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 07:40:52 pm »
Oh please.

The big school coaches have a much better chance of winning state titles. Don't hear anybody complaining about that.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 08:15:15 pm »
The whole All-Star process needs to be overhaul, from top to bottom.
It's hilarious when the players show up and some guy tell them they are the best in the state. No, they are the best of those who decided to come.
Because of colleges now wanting their signed players on campus as soon as possible, the best players can't and won't come. Case in point was the boys basketball game last year, and it became a joke.
The games need to be moved to a spot on the calendar when they mean something again.

Baseball doesn't end until late spring, though.

Asking football and basketball players to play another game when they still have other seasons still in front of them would be tough. There will be conflicts no matter what, in my opinion.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 10:55:19 pm »
The whole All-Star process needs to be overhauled, from top to bottom.
It's hilarious when the players show up and some guy tells them they are the best in the state. No, they are the best of those who decided to come.
Because of colleges now wanting their signed players on campus as soon as possible, the best players can't and won't come. Case in point was the boys basketball game last year, and it became a joke.
The games need to be moved to a spot on the calendar when they mean something again.


How about take off the All-Star title completely then?...and just call it the Arkansas Sr East Vs West Senior Challenge or something....

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 07:19:30 pm »
The AAA needs to rethink the selection process for the All Star Head Coaches.  This is supposed to be an honor presented to the best two coaches in the state each year as voted by their peers.  Due to the uneven amount of teams in each classification, the voting has become slanted towards the classifications with the most teams(2A, 3A, & 4A) and the head coaches in the larger schools have no shot at the honor.  You can't really fault the coaches because they don't have the luxury of being able to really follow what is going on in the other classifications.
When is the High School All Star football game? When do the players practice for the game?

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 02:54:42 am »
Or when a 2A team that loses in the 1st round gets  2 players in the game & a 1 loss team that makes the 4A semifinals only gets 1 player selected in football. The selection process is a joke.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 06:45:01 am »
The AAA needs to rethink the selection process for the All Star Head Coaches.  This is supposed to be an honor presented to the best two coaches in the state each year as voted by their peers.  Due to the uneven amount of teams in each classification, the voting has become slanted towards the classifications with the most teams(2A, 3A, & 4A) and the head coaches in the larger schools have no shot at the honor.  You can't really fault the coaches because they don't have the luxury of being able to really follow what is going on in the other classifications.
When is the High School All Star football game? When do the players practice for the game?

The All-Star games are played in mid-June, and here lies the problem.
The major college coaches have that way of telling their recruits that they better be on campus for the summer, and can get away with it now since signees can now be on campus on June 1. They can't afford to get behind in the classroom, the weight room and stuff like that, so they go there instead of the All-Star games.
There wasn't a single major college recruit at last year's game, and it's not just football. The other games suffer this as well. Boys basketball took a major hit last year, and I'm sure others did as well.
The football game really, really needs to be played some time before national signing day in order to truly have the state's best players. The basketball games should be played around spring break or so. The others could probably wait until mid-June but you will still have to deal with all these summer leagues as well as colleges.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2014, 12:42:37 pm »
While we're at this, lets ask an even larger question - why not do away with the All Star week entirely?  It may be time to drop this if it no longer really serves a purpose. 

Why are there all star games (serious question)?

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2014, 01:12:09 pm »
They really used to mean something, seven, even way back when the games were actually played in July. I knew of players who turned that one last look into a college offer. Of course, times have changed and recruiting has, as well.
One of the most vicious hits I've ever seen came in an All-Star football game was done by a player who went on to play in the NFL Raylee Johnson, who went on to Arkansas and played in the NFL with San Diego.
They just need to be meaningful again.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2014, 06:36:19 pm »
Kids are afraid of getting hurt.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 09:11:05 pm »
AAA does not select coaches or players. This is done by the AR High School Coaches Association. The coaches select the staffs, the staffs select the teams.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2014, 05:36:13 pm »
Some of the team members are chosen by the coaches of the respective conferences during conference meetings.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 11:26:13 am »
While we're at this, lets ask an even larger question - why not do away with the All Star week entirely?  It may be time to drop this if it no longer really serves a purpose. 

Why are there all star games (serious question)?

Agreed. Make an All Star list to honor the best but no reason for an actual game in my opinion.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2014, 12:40:53 pm »
They really used to mean something, seven, even way back when the games were actually played in July. I knew of players who turned that one last look into a college offer. Of course, times have changed and recruiting has, as well. One of the most vicious hits I've ever seen came in an All-Star football game was done by a player who went on to play in the NFL Raylee Johnson, who went on to Arkansas and played in the NFL with San Diego. They just need to be meaningful again.

It makes perfect sense this was the basis for forming All Star games - an opportunity for players to be seen was important back in the day.  As we all know, recruiting has evolved and for most sports, the summer after your senior season is far too late in the recruiting process for almost every athlete in every sport. 

If the rationale for the game continues to be recruiting, then perhaps the make up of the game should be changed.  Feature juniors (rising seniors) instead of graduated seniors and the game might pick up a bit more meaning.   

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2014, 10:44:36 am »
They really used to mean something, seven, even way back when the games were actually played in July. I knew of players who turned that one last look into a college offer. Of course, times have changed and recruiting has, as well. One of the most vicious hits I've ever seen came in an All-Star football game was done by a player who went on to play in the NFL Raylee Johnson, who went on to Arkansas and played in the NFL with San Diego. They just need to be meaningful again.

It makes perfect sense this was the basis for forming All Star games - an opportunity for players to be seen was important back in the day.  As we all know, recruiting has evolved and for most sports, the summer after your senior season is far too late in the recruiting process for almost every athlete in every sport. 

If the rationale for the game continues to be recruiting, then perhaps the make up of the game should be changed.  Feature juniors (rising seniors) instead of graduated seniors and the game might pick up a bit more meaning.

why not follow the process of other states. They could change this an make it an All-Star team that plays against another State, MS, MO, or OK perhaps call it a border war and play it in January.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2014, 11:06:55 am »
why not follow the process of other states. They could change this an make it an All-Star team that plays against another State, MS, MO, or OK perhaps call it a border war and play it in January.

Cross country has an end of year all-star meet against the best from Oklahoma so there is an existing example of just such a game. 

Whatever the solution may be, I'd sure like to believe AAA and / or the Coaches association are working on this problem.  The cynic in me suspects they are not however....

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2014, 02:33:33 pm »
Since we are on the subject, here are your coaches for the All-Star game:
East                                                                        West
Tom Sears, Hoxie (head coach)                                 Cody McNabb, Morrilton (head coach)
John Fogleman, Little Rock Catholic                           Perry Escalante, Rogers Heritage
Steven Hampton, Nettleton                                       Scott Hyatt, Booneville
Benji Mahan, Mountain Home                                    Greg Kendrick, Charleston
Gary Moody, Gosnell                                                 Scott Neathery, Benton
Dustin Prescott, Des Arc                                           Mark Taylor, Hector
Jeremy Parmer, Hoxie                                              Zach Watson, Morrilton

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2014, 12:10:07 pm »
Wait a minute... Wasn't Mt. Home 0-11 this year?   How is there coach on the "all star" staff?

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2014, 09:27:31 pm »
In todays society, everyone gets a trophy

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2014, 09:37:29 pm »
Arent those voted on?  So somebody voted for him.

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2014, 10:20:36 am »
Can Somebody Please Post The All Star Roster for Football

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2014, 01:04:38 pm »
Can Somebody Please Post The All Star Roster for Football

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Arkansas+all-star+roster+football+2014

East side anyway, I thought the AAA site had it??

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2014, 10:39:59 am »
Wait a minute... Wasn't Mt. Home 0-11 this year?   How is there coach on the "all star" staff?

Not one coach SOUTH OF BENTON selected ?

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Re: Selection of All Star Coaches
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2014, 01:34:10 pm »
where is the roster its not online

 

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