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Title: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: WarriorFan on February 23, 2019, 09:00:12 pm
What are everyone's thoughts on this. And on to a second question. Isn't it about time for all privates to get their on Classification
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: beach bum on February 23, 2019, 09:04:27 pm
You don't know anything about classifications do you or how they work? If you noticed Baptist Prep played 3A in football this year too which means even if the classifications would have stayed at 7 for basketball too they would have still been 3A in basketball this cycle. This means BP is by enrollment a 2A school and private plays up one class so that's how they landed in 3A. What else do you want? Do you want BP playing Fayetteville to make you happy? They just happen to have a once in a decade or even generation player. Quit whining and sit back and enjoy greatness you likely won't see in the small classifications for a while. People aren't owed anything when it comes to their team winning. Just compete the best you can and tip your hat to greatness if they beat you. I apologize for being harsh, but there seems to be two out of three things going on this site lately the are my pet peeves on fearless...


A) blaming refs for losing (seen this for days now on here)


B) my teams losing to better teams or private schools so lets find a way for my team to win more and I call this the "Pulaski Academy jealousy syndrome" (sorry but no one is "owed" winning)

C) luckily no one does this much if ever but bash kids by name (keep it up folks and don't do this ever)


.....However I am seeing A and B happen all day. Please stop people
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: beach bum on February 23, 2019, 09:09:46 pm
I honestly think with school consolidation and teams dropping football or going 8 man... that moving to 6 classifications was a great decision. I may be totally wrong, but I personally think the "other sports' classifications dropping to 6A being the highest was a test in a way by the AAA to see if they will go this direction for football due to 8 man about to pop up. It was about time the AAA did this cause there are too many classifications still. There should be one less in my opinion. The way it was pre 2006 was the best
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: 54Bearkatz2014 on February 23, 2019, 09:18:09 pm
You don't know anything about classifications do you or how they work? If you noticed Baptist Prep played 3A in football this year too which means even if the classifications would have stayed at 7 for basketball too they would have still been 3A in basketball this cycle. This means BP is by enrollment a 2A school and private plays up one class so that's how they landed in 3A. What else do you want? Do you want BP playing Fayetteville to make you happy? They just happen to have a once in a decade or even generation player. Quit whining and sit back and enjoy greatness you likely won't see in the small classifications for a while. People aren't owed anything when it comes to their team winning. Just compete the best you can and tip your hat to greatness if they beat you. I apologize for being harsh, but there seems to be two out of three things going on this site lately the are my pet peeves on fearless...


A) blaming refs for losing (seen this for days now on here)


B) my teams losing to better teams or private schools so lets find a way for my team to win more and I call this the "Pulaski Academy jealousy syndrome" (sorry but no one is "owed" winning)

C) luckily no one does this much if ever but bash kids by name (keep it up folks and don't do this ever)


.....However I am seeing A and B happen all day. Please stop people


+1
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: 54Bearkatz2014 on February 23, 2019, 09:19:31 pm
I actually like the move they made. It seems to have created a lot more competition. Or teams could just not be separating themselves as before. But overall I think the AAA made the correct move.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: 501Arkansas on February 23, 2019, 09:20:29 pm
I love it!!! These kids can play better competition.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: beach bum on February 23, 2019, 09:20:38 pm
I actually like the move they made. It seems to have created a lot more competition. Or teams could just not be separating themselves as before. But overall I think the AAA made the correct move.


Totally agree!
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: WarriorFan on February 23, 2019, 10:21:20 pm
Here is my take on the private schools. They offer scholarships, can recruit with a certain area.  That's an unfair advantage to the puplic school.  If the privates can recruit let the public schools have open school choice.  Open school choice will let any student go to any school he/she chooses. And let it be any grade k-12 without setting 365 days. 
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: LRRandy on February 23, 2019, 10:30:15 pm
Here is my take on the private schools. They offer scholarships, can recruit with a certain area.  That's an unfair advantage to the puplic school.  If the privates can recruit let the public schools have open school choice.  Open school choice will let any student go to any school he/she chooses. And let it be any grade k-12 without setting 365 days.
being in a rural location I'm sure that you may not be aware of the school choice option that the public schools have. There is much more recruiting and transferring in the public school sector than private schools. Those girls that beat you tonight have been at CAC for years, playing all the way up from elementary school.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RamblinRazorWreck on February 23, 2019, 10:59:24 pm
Issac McBride has been at Baptist since KINDERGARTEN.  And HE is the reason Baptist is such a juggernaut.  The rest of the boys there have also come up thru the school, except one homeschooler that took advantage of the new rule, but fully enrolled.

Don't accuse people of things you know NOTHING about!!!
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: ZoneBuster on February 23, 2019, 11:22:36 pm
Thereís not enough private schools to warrant them being their own class. As far as 4A teams dropping down, it doesnít seem that there are that many making a difference. Baptist has been up and down these past few years.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: WarriorFan on February 23, 2019, 11:28:34 pm
Thereís not enough private schools to warrant them being their own class. As far as 4A teams dropping down, it doesnít seem that there are that many making a difference. Baptist has been up and down these past few years.

There are 31 private or charter schools that's plenty to have their own Classification.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: LRRandy on February 23, 2019, 11:31:43 pm
Thereís not enough private schools to warrant them being their own class. As far as 4A teams dropping down, it doesnít seem that there are that many making a difference. Baptist has been up and down these past few years.
wait.....what? You mean the last 3 state championships in a row in 4a don't count?
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Almatrackster on February 23, 2019, 11:32:12 pm
All charter schools with differing sizes. Some states do it and I disagree.

Subiaco in a conference with Pulaski for football? What does that solve for the competition angle?
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: LRRandy on February 23, 2019, 11:36:50 pm
There are 31 private or charter schools that's plenty to have their own Classification.
look, you got punched in the nose by a smaller school tonight. You don't like it. I get it. Funny how there isn't much complaining about private schools until you lose to them.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: WarriorFan on February 23, 2019, 11:47:27 pm
look, you got punched in the nose by a smaller school tonight. You don't like it. I get it. Funny how there isn't much complaining about private schools until you lose to them.

I have been against private schools competing against public for the last 10 years. It isn't wins or losses it all about the unfair advantages the privates have. Either put the privates in their own class or let the public schools operate like the they do.  Let the puplic schools recruit from at 25 mile radius or let them have open school choice.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: ISU7 on February 23, 2019, 11:58:57 pm
What are everyone's thoughts on this. And on to a second question. Isn't it about time for all privates to get their on Classification
Team not doing to good huh!. ICC is 1A and they would compete big time in 3A. Deal with it.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: sevenof400 on February 24, 2019, 07:14:46 am
While the question regarding the private schools has been addressed at length around here, there is a larger question of why AAA continues to cling to a system where set numbers of schools MUST fit into a classification on the higher end of the scale.  Why?

To illustrate using 2018-2020 classification numbers (using the largest / smallest public school):

7A: largest school Springdale 2413 student count
      smallest school: Van Buren 1393 student count

6A: largest school Jonesboro 1241 student count
      smallest school: Greenwood 893 student count

5A: largest school Texarkana 857 student count
      smallest school: Blytheville 506 student count

4A: largest school Mills 497 student count
      smallest school: Harmony Grove 293 student count

3A: largest school Booneville 290 student count
      smallest school: Horatio 190 student count

2A: largest school Yellville 189 student count
      smallest school: Strong 75 student count

One person might look at these numbers and declare this to be okay since (outside of 2A) no largest school is more than twice the size of the smallest school. 
but......more to follow.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Outoftownfan on February 24, 2019, 07:35:41 am
Team not doing to good huh!. ICC is 1A and they would compete big time in 3A. Deal with it.


And ICC should be renamed North Central Prep.  ;D

Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: ZoneBuster on February 24, 2019, 08:18:56 am
wait.....what? You mean the last 3 state championships in a row in 4a don't count?

No I mean theyíve been down to 3A and up to 4A over the past decade. Them being 3A isnít new. Iím helping your case lol.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: HorseFeathers on February 24, 2019, 09:36:00 am
While the question regarding the private schools has been addressed at length around here, there is a larger question of why AAA continues to cling to a system where set numbers of schools MUST fit into a classification on the higher end of the scale.  Why?

To illustrate using 2018-2020 classification numbers (using the largest / smallest public school):

7A: largest school Springdale 2413 student count
      smallest school: Van Buren 1393 student count

6A: largest school Jonesboro 1241 student count
      smallest school: Greenwood 893 student count

5A: largest school Texarkana 857 student count
      smallest school: Blytheville 506 student count

4A: largest school Mills 497 student count
      smallest school: Harmony Grove 293 student count

3A: largest school Booneville 290 student count
      smallest school: Horatio 190 student count

2A: largest school Yellville 189 student count
      smallest school: Strong 75 student count

One person might look at these numbers and declare this to be okay since (outside of 2A) no largest school is more than twice the size of the smallest school. 
but......more to follow.

Uh 7...I agree with the size disparity, but what would you do solve it? Also, the 1a/2a/3a schools don't have a set # of schools, they combined the 3 classes and split them evenly. Strong is a 1a school, they lost big to Kirby in boys and girls region this week..
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: sevenof400 on February 24, 2019, 10:13:06 am
I'm trying to get a couple of charts to look right......here is one of them.

Disclosure: the labels are NOT entirely accurate because I have dropped the private schools from this graph.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Ice Water on February 24, 2019, 12:09:21 pm
I have been against private schools competing against public for the last 10 years. It isn't wins or losses it all about the unfair advantages the privates have. Either put the privates in their own class or let the public schools operate like the they do.  Let the puplic schools recruit from at 25 mile radius or let them have open school choice.

I'm not sure you understand how the rules work. It's not a free for all, take anyone you can get within 25 miles. A kid that newly enrolls in a private school from within a 25 mile radius of the school has to sit out a year, even if there was a bonafide move from one location inside the radius to another... But while we're on the topic, Mayflower, the team that went toe-to-toe with big bad Baptist Prep last night, has one or two Conway transplants in the starting lineup.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: LeftyWorld on February 24, 2019, 02:08:46 pm
That whole sit out a year isnít totally accurate. I know of one move in at a private school in Little Rock ( not BP ) that has played all year and played all last year at a public school. I thought any move public to private you had to sit out but I guess there is always a way around it. Also you canít say public school donít recruit, look at Joe T football. Still canít win the big one though  :o
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RedWolf275 on February 24, 2019, 03:14:00 pm
Harding Academy has a player, a very good one, who played at Batesville Southside last year so that must not be a rule.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Ice Water on February 24, 2019, 03:26:19 pm
Harding Academy has a player, a very good one, who played at Batesville Southside last year so that must not be a rule.

If his previous residence was outside a 25 mile radius of HA, and he moved inside of said 25 mile radius, he becomes immediately eligible just like a public school kid moving from one school district into another.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RedWolf275 on February 24, 2019, 03:29:01 pm
Ok. I just knew he went public to private so that alone does not make him have to sit out.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Ice Water on February 24, 2019, 03:39:30 pm
Ok. I just knew he went public to private so that alone does not make him have to sit out.

Right. A kid can physically move to Searcy and chose to attend HA, which is what I'm guessing Patterson did. The move just has to be from outside of 25 mile radius to inside the radius. So hypothetically, say he had played at Bald Knob or Riverview last year rather than SS Batesville, there would be no way for him to play at HA without sitting.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RedWolf275 on February 24, 2019, 03:58:30 pm
Got it. Thanks for info.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: CoolBreeze on February 24, 2019, 04:37:52 pm
I have been against private schools competing against public for the last 10 years. It isn't wins or losses it all about the unfair advantages the privates have. Either put the privates in their own class or let the public schools operate like the they do.  Let the puplic schools recruit from at 25 mile radius or let them have open school choice.
These so-called advantages for private schools have been debunked time and again to no avail. The opponents have their mind made up and the facts don't matter. If you shoot down one set of arguments, they come up another one which may be inconsistent with the first. The fact is that very few private schools recruit for sports. Far more public schools do.


It's interesting that nobody ever brings up the primary advantage that public schools have over many private schools. Public schools have more financial resources. Their funding comes from taxes. Private schools have to raise their funding athletics from donations. Maybe they should have to play up a class compared to private schools.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: panther07 on February 24, 2019, 06:15:48 pm
Here is my take on the private schools. They offer scholarships, can recruit with a certain area.  That's an unfair advantage to the puplic school.  If the privates can recruit let the public schools have open school choice.  Open school choice will let any student go to any school he/she chooses. And let it be any grade k-12 without setting 365 days.

Harding academy doesnít give scholarships.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Ctucker on February 24, 2019, 06:42:27 pm
Here is my take on the private schools. They offer scholarships, can recruit with a certain area.  That's an unfair advantage to the puplic school.  If the privates can recruit let the public schools have open school choice.  Open school choice will let any student go to any school he/she chooses. And let it be any grade k-12 without setting 365 days.
And you are completely wrong
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: sevenof400 on February 24, 2019, 07:09:38 pm
And you are completely wrong
Care to offer specific examples?
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Ctucker on February 24, 2019, 07:39:23 pm
Care to offer specific examples?
tell us one kid that has had a scholarship from Harding of Prep give us a example? I will be waiting yíall say it happens name one kid! And by the way my kids went to public school! But if yíall know that kids get scholarships from these school name one kid Iím gonna bet yíall canít because it doesnít happen!
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: biglion1985 on February 24, 2019, 11:08:37 pm
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Arkansas offer school choice?
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: bobcats on February 25, 2019, 06:08:16 am
Harding academy doesnít give scholarships.

They do offer "financial aid". Check their web page.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: sevenof400 on February 25, 2019, 08:55:22 am
Privates schools can and do offer financial aid - we have a very good conversation on this in another forum - but that aid is need based and (if I recall correctly) most private schools use an outside agency to determine the amount of financial aid a student might qualify for. 
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: panther07 on February 25, 2019, 09:19:44 am
They do offer "financial aid". Check their web page.

And before summer practice got going last season, they lost a couple of players who planned to enroll because of lack of financial aid. They arenít just tossing around aid. If HA was, theyíd have a lot more good transfers show up.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RamblinRazorWreck on February 25, 2019, 09:56:22 am
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Arkansas offer school choice?

School Choice IS the Law in Arkansas, unless a school CHOOSES to opt out.  In which case, it is best to direct frustration at the local administration, not at other kids and other schools.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RamblinRazorWreck on February 25, 2019, 10:01:49 am
These so-called advantages for private schools have been debunked time and again to no avail. The opponents have their mind made up and the facts don't matter. If you shoot down one set of arguments, they come up another one which may be inconsistent with the first. The fact is that very few private schools recruit for sports. Far more public schools do.


It's interesting that nobody ever brings up the primary advantage that public schools have over many private schools. Public schools have more financial resources. Their funding comes from taxes. Private schools have to raise their funding athletics from donations. Maybe they should have to play up a class compared to private schools.

Additionally, Private school families directly fund their school of choice with full tuition AND indirectly fund the local public school (and many cases a RIVAL team).   

But it is unfair to the Public School teams!   ::)
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: beach bum on February 25, 2019, 10:06:56 am
Additionally, Private school families directly fund their school of choice with full tuition AND indirectly fund the local public school (and many cases a RIVAL team).   

But it is unfair to the Public Schools!   ::)


This is exactly the reason why I don't mind private schools playing with public schools. As they should pay property taxes like the rest of us to pay for public schools. Heck, its no different than someone like me who has no kids and still pays property taxes. However, these people fund their own private school and still do their civic duty for the betterment of the community and help with their property taxes to fund the public schools. I would never want to be a part of a private school, but I have never understood the hate for them. It's called choice. If they have the means and want to then more power to them. But again you are spot on they fund their own private school and help us fund our public schools at the same time.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: OB11 on February 25, 2019, 10:22:11 am
I'm trying to get a couple of charts to look right......here is one of them.

Disclosure: the labels are NOT entirely accurate because I have dropped the private schools from this graph.

Did you make this yourself 7?
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Oldman on February 25, 2019, 10:48:53 am
You don't know anything about classifications do you or how they work? If you noticed Baptist Prep played 3A in football this year too which means even if the classifications would have stayed at 7 for basketball too they would have still been 3A in basketball this cycle. This means BP is by enrollment a 2A school and private plays up one class so that's how they landed in 3A. What else do you want? Do you want BP playing Fayetteville to make you happy? They just happen to have a once in a decade or even generation player. Quit whining and sit back and enjoy greatness you likely won't see in the small classifications for a while. People aren't owed anything when it comes to their team winning. Just compete the best you can and tip your hat to greatness if they beat you. I apologize for being harsh, but there seems to be two out of three things going on this site lately the are my pet peeves on fearless...


A) blaming refs for losing (seen this for days now on here)


B) my teams losing to better teams or private schools so lets find a way for my team to win more and I call this the "Pulaski Academy jealousy syndrome" (sorry but no one is "owed" winning)

C) luckily no one does this much if ever but bash kids by name (keep it up folks and don't do this ever)


.....However I am seeing A and B happen all day. Please stop people

Is your infectious attitude natural or do you have to work at it?
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RamblinRazorWreck on February 25, 2019, 11:01:30 am
I'm trying to get a couple of charts to look right......here is one of them.

Disclosure: the labels are NOT entirely accurate because I have dropped the private schools from this graph.

Very cool... I love well done data studies!  For the present discussion, I think showing the Private Schools under the bracketed Classification they play in would be MOST enlightening!  They will be little blips below the curve, and personally, I wish you would label them by name so folks can see them.  Especially since this thread (yet again) appears to be prompted by the CAC girls & BP boys winning their Regional. 

BTW, if it is so unfair, why did the CAC boys and BP girls not even make it to regionals?  And have the ones complaining here checked out CAC, BP and Episcopal football lately?

IMO, the complaints about Class realignments among Public Schools are just irrational emotional responses.  I do understand the complaints about Private Schools, I just disagree with almost every point of contention that tends towards banishment off the island, especially since we live (or used to live) in a free society.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RamblinRazorWreck on February 25, 2019, 11:06:49 am

This is exactly the reason why I don't mind private schools playing with public schools. As they should pay property taxes like the rest of us to pay for public schools. Heck, its no different than someone like me who has no kids and still pays property taxes. However, these people fund their own private school and still do their civic duty for the betterment of the community and help with their property taxes to fund the public schools. I would never want to be a part of a private school, but I have never understood the hate for them. It's called choice. If they have the means and want to then more power to them. But again you are spot on they fund their own private school and help us fund our public schools at the same time.

And since some of the animosity stems from Private schools being "rich kids" (as we have seen them called in other threads), then doesn't it also stand to reason that they are paying higher property taxes as well?  Not always (I am not into stereotypes), but just a counterpoint to the unfair advantages angle.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: sevenof400 on February 25, 2019, 11:44:54 am
Did you make this yourself 7?

Yes, I just grabbed the student counts from the AAA's website for the 2018-2020 classification cycle.  For that graph, I used all schools 4A and larger. 
Google sheets does not easily allow me to swap the axis plus I wanted to set the scale a bit differently.  I am going to chart this data in Excel (where I have a bit more control) and will post that chart in a bit. 
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Ladyfan on February 25, 2019, 04:41:31 pm
Very cool... I love well done data studies!  For the present discussion, I think showing the Private Schools under the bracketed Classification they play in would be MOST enlightening!  They will be little blips below the curve, and personally, I wish you would label them by name so folks can see them.  Especially since this thread (yet again) appears to be prompted by the CAC girls & BP boys winning their Regional. 

BTW, if it is so unfair, why did the CAC boys and BP girls not even make it to regionals?  And have the ones complaining here checked out CAC, BP and Episcopal football lately?

IMO, the complaints about Class realignments among Public Schools are just irrational emotional responses.  I do understand the complaints about Private Schools, I just disagree with almost every point of contention that tends towards banishment off the island, especially since we live (or used to live) in a free society.

Well said! And letís not forgot, CAC girls and BP boys were both state champs last year. Why is this a surprise that they win their regional? Itís not like either school recruited players to stack a team this year. These kids have been at these schools for many years.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: OB11 on February 26, 2019, 10:08:17 am
Yes, I just grabbed the student counts from the AAA's website for the 2018-2020 classification cycle.  For that graph, I used all schools 4A and larger. 
Google sheets does not easily allow me to swap the axis plus I wanted to set the scale a bit differently.  I am going to chart this data in Excel (where I have a bit more control) and will post that chart in a bit.

Very cool. Google Sheets has it's merits but I prefer Excel if I am working on something that actually needs to look nice. Lol
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Hasbeen92 on March 03, 2019, 09:12:08 am
I honestly think with school consolidation and teams dropping football or going 8 man... that moving to 6 classifications was a great decision. I may be totally wrong, but I personally think the "other sports' classifications dropping to 6A being the highest was a test in a way by the AAA to see if they will go this direction for football due to 8 man about to pop up. It was about time the AAA did this cause there are too many classifications still. There should be one less in my opinion. The way it was pre 2006 was the best
You realize that there are only 6 classifications in football class A does not play football-now basketball has 6 I agree with u that there are to many classifications
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RedWolf275 on March 03, 2019, 09:21:38 am
Looks like a lot of teams that were moved down a class are in the state finals this coming week.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: birddawg1986 on March 03, 2019, 10:43:36 am
Thereís not enough private schools to warrant them being their own class. As far as 4A teams dropping down, it doesnít seem that there are that many making a difference. Baptist has been up and down these past few years.
Private schools have no place in AAA championship events. They can travel out of state like W Memphis Christian does. I donít have issues with schools dropping and like one poster stated with more 2A schools dropping football or playing 8 man in the next few years itís going to get wild
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: 54Bearkatz2014 on March 03, 2019, 11:07:26 am
Private schools have no place in AAA championship events. They can travel out of state like W Memphis Christian does. I donít have issues with schools dropping and like one poster stated with more 2A schools dropping football or playing 8 man in the next few years itís going to get wild

Any schools can play out of state opponents. Thatís not just a private school thing.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: HorseFeathers on March 03, 2019, 11:10:28 am
Private schools have no place in AAA championship events. They can travel out of state like W Memphis Christian does. I donít have issues with schools dropping and like one poster stated with more 2A schools dropping football or playing 8 man in the next few years itís going to get wild

Maybe we can kick out public's that abuse school choice as well 🤷
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Ctucker on March 03, 2019, 11:19:04 am
I havenít looked at the girls brackets but on the boys side there is not 1 private school in the finals so whatís the big problem! Donít see a lot of dominating by private schools if they are cheating they are not very good at it!
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: ozarkmtnsman on March 03, 2019, 12:19:43 pm
There are some private schools that do a little recruiting as well as some public schools.
Always have always will. More often or not itís the Dad that moves little Johnny or Susie to a school (public and private) so that they may have the chance to win a championship.  We have school choice in Arkansas.  Any Dad can have their son attending ICC next school year if they so choose. 
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Ctucker on March 03, 2019, 01:18:25 pm
There are some private schools that do a little recruiting as well as some public schools.
Always have always will. More often or not itís the Dad that moves little Johnny or Susie to a school (public and private) so that they may have the chance to win a championship.  We have school choice in Arkansas.  Any Dad can have their son attending ICC next school year if they so choose. 
. I think even with school choice Iíd you donít make legit move you have to sit a year donít see many kids willing to do that!
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: SouthpawSensation on March 03, 2019, 01:22:26 pm
Private schools have no place in AAA championship events. They can travel out of state like W Memphis Christian does. I donít have issues with schools dropping and like one poster stated with more 2A schools dropping football or playing 8 man in the next few years itís going to get wild
Note to this poster ... West Memphis Christian isn't a AAA member. Therefore, it doesn't have to abide by AAA guidelines.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: HorseFeathers on March 03, 2019, 01:29:54 pm
Note to this poster ... West Memphis Christian isn't a AAA member. Therefore, it doesn't have to abide by AAA guidelines.

I think he's advocating just booting all the private schools out of AAA
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: 2fe on March 03, 2019, 02:12:04 pm
Private schools have no place in AAA championship events. They can travel out of state like W Memphis Christian does.

That's some Grade A fact checking on your part.  There were literally 3 public schools playing a baseball tournament in Louisiana this past weekend.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: birddawg1986 on March 03, 2019, 02:12:43 pm
Note to this poster ... West Memphis Christian isn't a AAA member. Therefore, it doesn't have to abide by AAA guidelines.
None of the private schools should be AAA members.
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: HorseFeathers on March 03, 2019, 02:16:16 pm
None of the private schools should be AAA members.

Why? If you say recruiting, then we have to boot out half the public schools 🤷 To much success? We have to boot out more public schools 🤦
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: RamblinRazorWreck on March 04, 2019, 03:51:42 pm
Why? If you say recruiting, then we have to boot out half the public schools 🤷 To much success? We have to boot out more public schools 🤦

Just BECAUSE!  ;)
Title: Re: Not a fan of the 4A team dropping down to 3A per AAA Classifications.
Post by: Arkiesoccer on March 04, 2019, 09:35:41 pm
That's some Grade A fact checking on your part.  There were literally 3 public schools playing a baseball tournament in Louisiana this past weekend.

Pine Bluff football teams of the 90s played a home and home with Neville, LA.  Not like public school teams going out of state is anything new.